Chittum at it again.

[Scooter]

Originally Posted by orlgheenoer

Sounds interesting, from what i heard isnt Hal allot of the Reason HB went down in the first place.

no

[Swank]

Originally Posted by orlgheenoer

Sounds interesting, from what i heard isnt Hal allot of the Reason HB went down in the first place.

Hal? No way....that company was fine when
he had it, all the problems stemmed from one guy.

[beavis]

Originally Posted by orlgheenoer

Sounds interesting, from what i heard isnt Hal allot of the Reason HB went down in the first place.

soemone should take your fishing and boating card away from you on that one Tanner.

[orlgheenoer]

sorry sorry my bad.

[engulfed]

Hi All,

I don't know . I dont think there is a "Hell" of alot more anyone can do to a flats skiff with materials in the market place. Whats out there after Kevlar and vaacum bagging, the weight of saltwater doesnt vary much, so boyancy is not a variable from that aspect. what else can they do that the average angler/ boater will really notice . As an aside Hal was /is a guide correct not a Naval/ Nautical engineer/ architect . I think the current choice of skiff out there represent the edge of an envelope that will need new materials to advance the level of skiff we are now accustomed to and as in automobile design any advancement to performance will probably not be appreciated by the general population. I doubt any of us are really "pushing the envelope". And remember everything from a performance standpoint has a tradeoff... is it worth it to the average angler.

Not looking to insult anyone but just my observations

[Jacknasty]

He is inserting helium between the materials in the hull to make it float

[Swank]

[engulfed]

where's Flipper?

[Bill@NSB]

From what I've read, his new skiff has 12 degrees of deadrise at the stern.

It'll be interesting to see how shallow it floats.

[flatbroke]

Hal hired the top Navel architect in the business and there a lot more materials out there now, mainly in the cores that can accept new bonding processes. I will be on the boat all weekend myself as oposed to just fiming the thing.. I should be able to give out some more specs on the skiff when I get back for Titusville. All Ican say is the boat does have the deadrise in the back but is floating shallower than anything before. The biggest news is that the hull has gone way beyond anything else ever done as to being quiet and pole-a-bility... It will spin easier and trac truer than anything you have seen but still draft what the 16 Whiprays (original) will... Also the edge if the envelope has been changed now and its because of this skiff....

Originally Posted by engulfed

Hi All,

I don't know . I dont think there is a "Hell" of alot more anyone can do to a flats skiff with materials in the market place. Whats out there after Kevlar and vaacum bagging, the weight of saltwater doesnt vary much, so boyancy is not a variable from that aspect. what else can they do that the average angler/ boater will really notice . As an aside Hal was /is a guide correct not a Naval/ Nautical engineer/ architect . I think the current choice of skiff out there represent the edge of an envelope that will need new materials to advance the level of skiff we are now accustomed to and as in automobile design any advancement to performance will probably not be appreciated by the general population. I doubt any of us are really "pushing the envelope". And remember everything from a performance standpoint has a tradeoff... is it worth it to the average angler.

Not looking to insult anyone but just my observations